nothing's happening in washington. there is no movement towards consensus on either side of the debate. people look at that and say what were we so optimistic about? i think the cliff will be more of an effect afterwards. but to go back to stewart's point, he's talking about 2% growth in spending. 2% consumer growth is probably going to produce a very weak gdp number. although we had a nice number on the boost, we'll have a horrible in the next quarter. which isn't great. that's really the point. 11% rise in fedex sales not going to lead in an 11%? consumer spending. at beast we're looking at 2%. that's not good. >> my 2% forecast is for next year. i think we'll do better this quarter. and you don't sell 15.5 million cars in the month of november if consumers can't get the credit. and they're not in somewhat of a spending mood and feel they have the income to justify it. >> well, it is subprime lending that is driving that. 45% of all new leases are subprime. that's not particularly good. they have cut the lease rates